Quantum Mechanics-
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour
of kings is to search out
a matter. Prvb.
ON VIDEO-
[past posts- verses below]
.Quantum Leap
.Quanta a mystery?
.Bowling balls need a bowler
.You see it- you did it!
.What’s the big mystery?
.Light both wave and particle
.Observer created reality
.Interpretation of data
.Newton
.Copernicus
.Kepler
.Atoms- Electrons- Nucleus- all ok
.Quanta
.Pilot Wave
.science- or magic?
. Double slit test
.Wonderful- Wonderful Copenhagen?
.Chance or determinism- that’s the question
.Maybe my duplicate will go to heaven!
NEW STUFF-
QUANTUM LEAP
Ok- I want to make this as simple as possible- don’t be
afraid of the title.
I have actually taught some of this over the years- because
in the field of Physics [the study of stuff] this particular area has been used
by thinkers [wrongfully] who refute God [atheists].
So- the past week or so I’ve been commenting about a
documentary I’ve been watching on PBS [Fabric of the cosmos] and have also been
going thru an old Physics course I bought years ago.
It just so happened [yes- I did not plan it] that they both
deal with Quantum Mechanics [the study of very small particles].
As I listened to the good men- I noticed lots of
contradictions- and over exaggerations [maybe they are just excited about their
field?]
Now- if I were to guess- I think part of the excitement- is
based on some of their ‘world views’.
Meaning- in the whole debate about God- and science- many
have tried to argue that the physical universe is ‘not designed’.
The Christian thinker [and the early philosophers] did argue
that you find design in the Cosmos.
So- when Quantum physics as a separate field arose in the
early 20th century- it seemed to be an area where those who ‘want’
no design [or predeterminism] could finally say ‘see- we now have proof that
the universe is ruled BY CHANCE’.
The Physicists I’ve been hearing the last few weeks have made
this statement more than once.
I have taught that this actual statement- is nonsensical.
Because- chance is simply a word that describes the odds of
something.
It is not ‘a thing’ that can cause [or rule] something.
Ok- what they really mean to say is something like this ‘we
have found that random acts- probability- is a factor in what’s happening’.
Now- that’s ok- if they say it that way [even though I do
not agree with all that they are saying- this would be the proper way to say
it].
So- what’s the big thing that the quantum guys are saying?
It’s really not that hard- or such a ‘great mystery’ [which
many are saying].
It comes down to the way Atoms work at the sub atomic level.
Atoms have Electrons inside them- that ‘orbit’ around the
center [nucleus].
In these ‘orbits’ [circles] the electrons seem to pass from
one circle- to another- without actually traveling thru the space.
They kind of ‘jump’ from one line- to the other.
This is called the Quantum Leap.
So- some have said this is proof that ‘something comes from
nothing’ [see- that’s the worldview working].
Actually- it is not proof that something comes from nothing-
and the scientists who were saying this at first- have stopped saying it.
Because- they were shown to be wrong.
The other thing that these guys have been saying is ‘we now
see that the fundamental WORKING OF THE UNIVERSE- IS BY CHANCE’.
This is simply not true.
In the beginning of the 20th century a scientist
by the name of Niels Bohr debated with Einstein about this very thing.
Bohr said these particles were actually reacting- working-
based on the observation of the scientists looking at them.
Yes- he said the fact that they were being observed- made
them act a certain way.
Einstein did not believe this at all- he responded ‘I prefer
to think the moon is there- whether I look at it or not’.
But- over time- some in the field of quantum Mechanics have
said Einstein has been proven wrong- and Bohr right.
But Einstein never said that Quantum mechanics was not true-
he just said over time- we will understand more about the field.
Because that’s the job of the scientist- to keep looking for
causes behind events [see- if you ‘stop’ looking for a cause- and say ‘it’s
chance’- it would be the same thing that some have accused the Christian
thinker of- that when the Christian says ‘see- we have no further explanation-
so God did it’. Now- I do believe ‘God did it’- but- in science- you continue
to look- as much as possible- for the chain of events. And this is what
Einstein was saying].
There were experiments done [Double split- etc.] that showed
that these particles did not respond in the normal way.
That is- individually.
But- over time- you could predict the way they acted- as a
group.
The example used was like a casino- even though the casino
owner cannot say who will win in his casino- yet- because of the odds- the probability-
over time he could be assured that the house will make more- then the people gambling.
Ok- this is fine- this is not some type of mystery that
overthrows ‘all that we ever knew about the universe’ [which some of the men
are saying].
Also- in the documentary I watched- carefully- they said it
has since been proven that Bohr was right- and Einstein wrong- in the area of
the observation of the particles being affected- simply because they were being
looked at.
But- the documentary did not show how- they did go on to explain
the concept of entanglement- and ‘spooky action’ but I was waiting for them to
show me how Bohr was proven right about the idea that when a particle is looked
at- it then reacts a certain way.
[In the field of Quantum Mechanics there is no equation that
actually shows HOW this works.
QM has many formulas that do indeed work- that’s why we have
electronics- cell phones- computers- etc. - the laws themselves do indeed work.
But there are no equations that show Einstein wrong and Bohr
right- in the particular area of ‘observation created reality’.]
They never showed that.
In short- the Atom has electrons in it- that orbit around
the center.
These particles seem to jump from one orbit- to another [The
Quantum leap] without traveling thru the space.
In my mind- the Atom is a finely tuned ‘machine’ that exists
everywhere.
The fact that these machines exist- and work- is part of the
Grand design.
The reality of the Quantum Leap does not ‘overthrow all that
we ever knew about the universe’.
It is a unique part of the created order.
In short- that’s it.
And the fact that they exist- and function- like everything
else- is proof of design in itself.
Because we cannot predict how each and every particle will
act- but we can predict how they will act as a group- is not proof that
anything happens ‘BY CHANCE’.
If you want to call it ‘a law of probable’s’ that’s fine.
But as a whole- or group- they do work in an orderly
fashion.
Now- there’s a lot more to Quantum Mechanics- but in a
nutshell- that’s was the big debate.
QUANTA A MYSTERY!
- One of the physicists talking about Quanta- a minimum
amount of energy that an electron puts out that can no longer be subdivided-
said ‘this is amazing- nothing else is like that- for example- if you eat food-
there is no minimum amount you must eat- why this is so is an absolute
mystery!’.
Now- is he correct?
Is this so amazing?
The actual subject itself- the study of atoms [and
everything else] is in categories- we define things by saying- well- it is A
THING [meaning- they have limits- big and small].
By definition- yes- there are barriers-categories-limits to
things.
Now- it’s a bit deeper than this- he is referring to
insights Niels Bohr had in the study of Quantum mechanics.
But this is really no ‘mystery that changes everything we
thought we knew’- not in the way the scientist talked about it.
BOWLING BALLS NEED A BOWLER
Now- I don’t want to
be ‘picky’- but I found it interesting that in order for the host of the
documentary to give an example of how these particles were reacting- he gave an
example of a man throwing them- like bowling balls [the example was fine] down
an alley.
He was doing this to show the probability of them acting a
certain way- over time.
The point is- even in his example- he has someone ‘throwing
them’- which would be the ‘cause’ for the effect.
Now- I know this was a simple example- for the viewer to
understand better.
But it is natural- even in a simple example- to have an
actual cause- for an effect.
And what he was trying to show in the example- was that
there was no ‘cause’.
YOU SEE IT- YOU DID IT
Some argue that
Quantum mechanics ‘proves’ that there are effects without a cause.
Which is an ideology that atheists try to use to say ‘there
is no God’.
They appeal to the seemingly ‘causeless’ reaction of the electrons/particles
that have no ‘movement or location’ until they are observed.
Actually- they do not see that they are contradicting
themselves when they say this.
Why?
They are telling you [and me] there IS A CAUSE.
They are saying the cause is OBSERVATION by humans.
Now- if the Copenhagen interpretation holds true [it is
being challenged by other interpretations- pilot wave-Hidden variables-
consistent history] it would confirm the bible.
How?
The bible teaches us that man is unique- he has ‘dominion’
over the created order [Genesis- Romans- etc.]
Meaning- man- has a special ‘rule’ or authority over
creation in a way that all creation ‘submits’ to his caretaking.
So- if Bohr is correct- that particles at the most
fundamental level of reality- act- move- ‘locate’ themselves- only when man is
observing them- then- this would be consistent with the biblical world view.
Bohr’s view is better defined as ‘observer created reality’.
WHATS THE BIG MYSTERY?
In short- in the Copenhagen interpretation- it seems as if
Electrons/ sub atomic particles are doing what they do- simply because they are
being observed.
As I studied what other physicists are saying about this
interpretation I found out that many of them believe this whole thing is way
overblown.
I came to this conclusion BEFORE I READ THEIR DOUBTS TOO.
Like I said above- if it is true- then fine.
It proves GOD.
If we keep looking- maybe there will be a scientific answer
to the problem.
The other scientists said stuff like ‘the reason these other
guys are talking like it is such a mystery- it overthrows our whole view of the
way we thought the world worked…’
They said it was kind of a ‘rite of passage’.
Like they picked up this ‘mysterious’ way of speaking-
because it simply gets you into the ‘in crowd’.
I’ll be honest- that’s what it looked like to me.
If one little unsolved part of the puzzle [why the particle
seems to be affected by the observer] is not solved yet- fine.
This in no way would overturn all the science that has been
done since the days of Aristotle- to Ptolemy- up to Copernicus- down the line
thru Newton- and then to Einstein.
It simply is not as big as they are making it out to be.
Christianity Today magazine ran an article a few years back-
saying ‘will Quantum Mechanics be the big challenge to God’.
Guess they were
simply trying to be trendy-
Maybe they should read my Blog?
LIGHT- WAVE AND PARTICLE
In the documentary- fabric of the cosmos- one of the
scientists said part of the ‘mystery’ was that waves are not particles- and
particles are not waves.
He used the example of an ocean wave [light wave] and rock
[light particle].
This insight of Einstein at the beginning of the 20th
century was indeed true.
The famous test- double slit- that seems to have confounded
these men- to the point of using language like ‘this mystery will overturn all
that we ever knew about the…’
The test showed that light has BOTH the characteristics of
wave and particle- not that hard to see.
This simple reality seems to back up the Pilot Wave
interpretation of QM’s-
Waves [both light- and ocean] are made up of particles. And
yes ‘a particle is not a wave- and a wave is not a particle’.
But waves are made up of particles- and as simple as this
sounds- that seems to be a part of the answer to the so called ‘puzzle’.
PAST POSTS [verses below]
In the last Philosophy post I hit on the 10th-14th
century development of modern thought- today I want to jump into the 16th-18th
centuries. Like I said in a previous post- after the Renaissance and the
Reformation and the great scientific revolution- you had the world in somewhat
of a tailspin.
What I mean is for
hundreds of years people trusted in the old institutions [like the Catholic
Church] to tell them what was true or false- then with the development of all
these modern movements people began questioning stuff.
Was it good to question things? Sure. But some challenged
the very foundations of thought and knowing [called Epistemology] and went a
bit too far.
Some thinkers went
back to the thought of Plato [400 years BC] and said that the mind is
the main source of all knowledge- these were the 17th century
Rationalists.
Rationalism- as a philosophy- was an outgrowth of all the
great strides that man was making in all these other areas of life. The
Scientific Revolution totally challenged the age old beliefs of many in the
church.
Math became a sort of new ‘god’. How so? As science invented
the Microscope and Telescope- man was able for the first time to peer deeply
into the heavens- and to see deeply into the microscopic world.
As the great minds [Copernicus] showed us that the Universe
was different than what we thought [Heliocentric versus Geocentric] man was
able to do mathematical calculations and to say that a specific planet or star
[or Comet] would show up at an exact date- or spot- and Walla- it would happen
[you could look thru the Telescope and sure enough the math was right- the
object that was calculated to be there- was.]
These calculations were mathematical formulas- so math began
to be seen as the new religion in many ways.
There are even some thinkers in the modern day that still
say the only ‘real truth’ that exists is mathematical formulas. Yeah- one guy
wrote an entire book on the subject- the problem? Well- his book was not
written in math- but words.
Yes- even the extreme deniers of Objective truth do make
mistakes.
Now- what’s wrong with rationalism? Of course being rational
is okay- but the philosophy itself denied real Objective truth. Truth that
corresponds to some other ‘outside’ reality.
This form of thinking [rejecting outside reality] is called
Relativism/Subjectivism. While there is some truth to all the various fields of
thought- yet extreme Relativism denies ‘reality’ as most of us understand the
term. There was a strong resistance to
the 17th century rationalists- we call this Philosophy Empiricism.
The main thinker in this field was John Locke. Locke lived
most of his life in the 17th century- but his thought laid the
foundation for the 18th century Empiricist.
This philosophy says that the mind does indeed play a major
role in the knowledge of things- but this knowledge does not originate in the
mind [Plato] but in the ‘thing’ itself [Aristotle- remember when we covered
these men? Plato was an idealist- Ideas were more real than matter. Aristotle
was a Realist- closer to the thought of Locke].
Locke developed a theory called the Correspondence theory-
that truth that the Mind discovers corresponds to real things that actually
exist apart from the mind.
Locke was a practicing doctor- and most of the other
thinkers of the day had room to speculate about reality in a way that Locke
could not.
He lived in a real world with real patients who had real
symptoms- in a nutshell Locke had to diagnose his patients based on his
findings- he could not deny that there was a real problem- he had to have his
‘feet on the ground’ [based in reality] while engaging with his head up high.
Okay- I think we’ll end with this. Maybe you can go back and
read some of my previous posts on this subject- just to become a little more
familiar with it.
As Christians- we are not ‘required’ to know Philosophy- or
current events- or science- but it helps us engage the culture when we do
educate ourselves in these areas.
Go slow in learning [not too slow!] and try and see how the Christian
Worldview agrees with- or rejects certain aspects of these different felids of
thought.
Most Christians would reject Rationalism as a Philosophy-
because it denies real objective truth- it says truth is relative- whatever the
mind can conceive- or think- can be defined as truth [Unicorns?]
Biblical truth is based on real historic events- 1st
Corinthians chapter 15 says that if we deny the physical resurrection of Christ- a real event- then
our faith is in vain.
Christians base their faith on a real historic event- not
simply on a belief system.
[parts]
Okay- Einstein.
As I read a few chapters every
few days- I want to comment on the important- relevant stuff.
One of them being the very word
Relativity.
Now- I am tempted to go back and
review all the posts we did on physics [you long time blog readers might
remember?].
But this book is not a physics
book per se’- but a biography.
Yet a quick review might help.
Einstein became famous for a few
things- most of us know the famous equation E=mc2.
Simply a conversion of mass into
energy formula- it works for all things- not just Nuclear.
His theory of Relativity shook up
the world of physics- and Einstein is indeed the father of what we call modern
physics [and Quantum theory].
Okay- what he did was he took the
centuries old ideas of Newton [the father of classical physics] and he said
that time and space were not absolutes.
That’s is- that depending on the
observer [and his speed] time actually changes.
Some in the scientific community
could not fathom what he was saying.
The book has actual headlines
from the NY times- they openly doubted some of Einstein’s work
I remember reading this years
ago- but this time I saw the real headlines.
They said stuff like ‘what is
this new theory- that space might be limited- this defies the actual definition
of space’.
Now- it would take too long to
tell you what they were covering- but it is one of the various theories of the
universe.
In actuality- the times might
have been right in this one case [it’s a theory that the universe is curved-
has no detectable edge- if so- you can than argue for an infinite universe in a
closed space- because there is no edge- or end].
As a side note- logically- the
times was correct.
Just because you can’t find a
‘sharp edge’ to a thing- that does not mean the thing is ‘endless’.
I covered this years ago in our
apologetics posts- it was interesting to have re –read this from this author
[Isaacson].
He is a good author- and explains
stuff well.
Okay what was the other stuff
that some objected to?
Some associated- wrongly- the
theory of Relativity- with the modernist philosophy called Relativism.
Relativism [remember the
philosophy stuff?] said that there was really nothing as objective truth- that
what you see might be just as true as what someone else sees.
You might both be looking at the
same thing [morally- murder- etc.] yet to one it might be wrong- to the other-
right.
This idea- Relativism- was
strongly rejected by many philosophers- especially those with a
Christians/Theist background.
Even today this is one of the
major debates going on in the world of the philosophy.
But- some confused what Einstein
was saying- and they thought [or used it] to back up the ‘moral’ philosophy of
Relativism.
This was a mistake.
Einstein himself- as I mentioned
in an earlier post- was not a relativist at all- that is when speaking about
moral absolutes.
So some began to associate him-
as one of the new ‘Jew’ scientists- who were introducing dangerous doctrines to
the world.
Yes- some of the objectors to
Einstein objected on the basis of this new ‘Jewish science’ that was breaking
away from the moors of Christian science- whose father was Isaac Newton.
See how both anti Semitism- and
religious belief played a role in this?
I’ll end with a quote from a
famous man of the time- an up and coming politician- I mean he could awe his
audience like no other.
Obama- Clinton- even the great
communicator- Reagan- were no match for this man when it came to giving a
speech.
He said ‘Science- once our
greatest pride- is today being taught by Hebrews’.
Who said this?
The future leader of Germany-
Adolph Hitler.
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them on other sites as well as the site you read them on. Thanks- John. Don’t
forget to scroll down on the timeline [Facebook] - I have
[parts]
At the start of the 20th
century Ether was an accepted ‘scientific truth’ that most [if not all]
scientists accepted.
It would be like Dark Matter
today- something that seems to be ‘true’- most of the scientific community
speak of it as real- yet- as far as we know- we have never once actually
detected it.
So- ether was this theory that
said light/energy is a wave [not particles] and therefore for this wave to move
thru space- it needs a carrier.
Ether was this so called vapor
like substance that allowed Energy/light to travel.
At a young age Einstein accepted
this idea- but he was learning at a time when particle physics was just getting
off the ground.
Though atoms and molecules
[particles] were indeed part of the conversation- yet they were not totally
proved yet.
So- part of the great
breakthrough of Einstein put to death the idea of Ether- and instead we learned
that light is not a wave so to speak- but a sort of particle beam- we did not
really need the Ether concept- and to be honest- it never was really there.
This is just one little tid bit
from the book that I thought interesting- today you would be considered a fool
if you still talked about Ether [in this way].
Yet- at the time of Einstein you
were a fool if you did not accept it.
Einstein would later challenge
the field that he launched- Theoretical/Quantum physics.
He felt like some of the ideas
were not really scientific- too much speculating.
That’s what I see as I watch/read
about some of the most popular ideas that seem to make it into the TV specials
that cover these subjects.
It’s often the theories/ideas
that are ‘way out there’ that are the most interesting- and get the most
viewers.
The problem is- many of these
ideas are [in my view] modern day Ethers- they are accepted ‘fact’ even though
we don’t really know if they exist.
When I see shows on alternate
universes- parallel worlds- where we supposedly have duplicate lives and all.
Well- this is not science- this
is not even Ether- its fairy tale land.
Yet- these same theorists will
mock belief in an omnipotent being- because they want to see the facts.
Sad.
So- over the next few weeks I
will try and hit a little more on the books I’m reading- cover some more
important news stuff- and try to be as challenging as Hunter.
Sometimes it’s when we go against
the status quo- when we are open to see things differently- that’s when we make
major breakthroughs in our thinking.
We should not cast off all the
stuff that has come to us down thru the ages- but we need to realize that some
of the stuff that seems to be accepted fact today- just might be the Ether of
yesterday.
Note- Do me a favor, those who
read/like the posts- re-post them on other sites as well as the site you read
them on. Thanks- John. Don’t forget to scroll down on the timeline [Facebook] -
I have posted lots.
1896 SIGNS OF THE
TIMES
‘Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised
thee- is burned up with fire’ Isaiah 64:11.
Yesterday I mentioned that I watched a couple of negative
documentaries about Christianity- they were done from the extreme skeptic’s
perspective.
In these types of shows they usually have a few
Christians/preachers that they portray as idiots.
In some cases- we can’t help ourselves!
[parts]
(518) Yesterday we had a real good outreach
day in Bishop. The Lord allowed for a lot of my homeless friends to meet a lot
of the original group of guys. Today we plan on going back to Kingsville and
just doing an outreach at one of the parks. I feel the Lord wants people to
simply ‘act’. Not be a ‘faker’ but an initiator! Get out of the city and dwell
in the fields! Sometimes it is the simple act of motion that starts the ball
rolling. One of the guys asked me about the vision in Ezekiel ‘a wheel within a
wheel’ is it U.F.O.s? I told him I doubt it, but one of the meanings of the
vision is God is ‘continually in motion’ as Saint Thomas Aquinas taught, God is
the ‘prime mover’. He got the ball rolling! As Gods kids he has given us the
inherent ability to ‘get the ball rolling’. Why do we hesitate to act? Out of
fear, greed, I want my own thing. All sorts of base lusts and sins keep us from
moving. Sometimes we are waiting for the specific exact thing to do, and God
says ‘I will give you all the details son, but I can’t give them to you unless
your start rolling’! I found it interesting that I hooked up with one of the
original families in Bishop. The brother and nephew of real good friends. They
have all been to our church in the early days. The brother accepted the Lord thru
our ministry [I think the nephew too; I will be baptizing him soon. I know he
is a believer for sure, I just didn’t bother to ask if he got saved during
those early days] I thought it interesting because the brother [the kid’s
uncle] had another brother who was one of our original guys, who died years ago
from bad stuff. The brother mentions how I used to know ‘BeBe’ and the nephew
says ‘you knew my other uncle brother John’. I didn’t realize he never knew
him. There are so many related friends and all thru these families it never
dawned on me that this kid was too little to remember the uncle who died years
earlier. As we were talking I then re tell some old stories [good ones!] and I
trace the original family member, who is this kids Grandfather, who by the way
is also dead [many years of drugs] and how the granddad and uncle were some of
the original friends of mine. This nephew, who really sees me as his original
‘Pastor’ learned a lot of his family tree from this time. I finally gave him
the card to this blog site and he was going to go home and get with another
friend [the son of one of our main guys, also related to this family thru the
marriage of the mom to the father. It’s a long story!] But these 2 younger kids
[now in their early 20’s] were going to get online and read the whole story of
the ministry that they never knew before. I just wanted to update you guys
today. I didn’t want you to think all I am going thru is struggles. The Lord
has really opened some regional doors for us this past week, so keep doing what
God is telling you to do, and don’t forget to ‘get moving!’ NOTE; it was weird,
as the nephew was asking me if I knew his other uncle who he never saw, but
heard stories how he was crazy [shooting cops!] I remembered how 25 years earlier
I was visiting his uncle in this exact same ranch property that this family
owned. It was another old house that is now gone, but it just happened to have
been this exact location of ranch, 25 years earlier! [It’s on the outskirts of
Bishop, by Kingsville]. Also I spoke at this uncles funeral years ago, he is
buried around 20 yards away from where we were having this discussion, in a
little cemetery right next to the house. Also as I was dropping the nephew off
in Corpus, he told me ‘brother John, we have your name hanging up in our house’
he told me that his mom has a baby picture of him, I guess when he was born,
and it has me signing it ‘brother John’ along with other family members. I
surely don’t remember, but it was special for him to have seen this picture for
all these years. He must think ‘how in the ‘hell’ has this guy been involved in so many things. This
white boy from Jersey’. He is like his dad, still alive by the way, but ‘in
hiding’ if you will, he likes to kid a lot! NOTE: I remember taking this boys
dad out to eat years ago. His dad tells me ‘brother John, where are we going to
eat? I feel uncomfortable being in a crowded place’ he has done lots of prison
time and all, but doesn’t like being where he might run
[parts]
Okay- instead- let’s do the other
big news story- the so called God Particle.
Yeah- I heard/read a bunch of
stories on the so called breakthrough discovery.
Now- I am not ‘anti science’.
I am not a person who believes
the earth is only 6 thousand years old- or that kids rode on the backs of
dinosaurs.
But- in the historic setting of
apologetics- and the role that science has played in the debate- I must say
there are lots of misconceptions floating around in the air.
Okay- a brief history of the
scientific method and how it came to be.
The past year or so I covered
lots of posts on philosophy and physics and world history in general.
We covered how during the middle
of the last millennium [500years ago] the world began a break thru in many
areas- and we often refer to this as the modern era.
Man- science- thought- all of the
fields we see as part of the modern era- they began at around this point.
Science/philosophy and religion
all played a big role in the debate.
One of the big boys was a man
named David Hume- he was a thinker who questioned what we talked about the
other day- the law of cause and effect.
This law simply says that every
effect has a cause.
Hume challenged the popular idea
that we can know causes.
He said we think we can know the
cause of something- but in reality we can’t be sure.
The example Hume gave was the
Pool table.
He said we see a person hit the q
ball- the ball hits another ball and it goes into the pocket.
Hume said it might look like this
a string of cause and effects- but we don’t know for sure.
Maybe there are other reasons why
the balls are reacting like this.
Another famous example is the
Rooster crowing- the guy couldn’t sleep in because the sun kept shinning in his
window- so every morning right before the sun rose he heard the darn rooster
crow.
So he shot the rooster.
Just because one act precedes another- this
does not mean that is the cause.
Okay- we got it Hume.
But some began to doubt all
possible knowledge- they said you can’t make any judgments at all- because we
don’t know for sure what the real cause is.
Okay- this led another great
thinker- Kant- to challenge Hume [the famous quote from Kant was ‘he woke up
out of his dogmatic slumber’] and Kant said even though we can’t be 100 % sure-
yet for any possibility for science to function- we do need to be able to have
some type of way we can settle on knowledge- science does need to be able to
say ‘okay- we have looked at this long enough- we think this is what’s causing
this’.
Okay- this whole debate is called
Epistemology- how we know stuff.
Now- the God particle.
As I listened to the various
reports the last 2 days- I could tell right off the bat that there was some
funny stuff going on.
The actual statements form the
scientists are saying ‘well- we haven’t ACTUALLY seen the particle [also called
Higgs Boson] but- we have detected enough other particles- so we think the
Boson is more than likely there too’ or ‘it’s like looking in the distance- and
you think you see someone- but maybe you’re looking at his twin instead’.
Okay- what kind of argument is
this?
This is what we call a
Metaphysical argument.
It’s an argument that is made-
not because you actually detected the thing- but you have come to a conclusion
based on the Scientific Method of Induction/Deduction.
You looked at- observed- and
tested various things- and you now say ‘well- it must be there- because look at
all the other stuff’. [layman’s terms].
Okay- is there anything wrong
with this.
Not really.
But- here’s the catch- many in
the modern field of physics refute the argument for the existence of God
because in the end it is a metaphysical one.
That is- the materialist
scientist [one who says we only deal in facts that we can actually see\detect]
uses metaphysical arguments all the time- he just does not realize he is doing
this.
Remember the other day- I posted
about the many contradictions good men make when mixing science with
apologetics and the laws of argumentation [or logic].
They often do not realize they
are contradicting themselves- or making out right nonsense statements- because
they are scientists- not logicians.
So what we have in the Higgs
Boson case- in the Dark Matter- Dark energy case- in the entire Multi Verse
theory [many universes].
In all these theories- which now
make up the majority of modern physics- they are all the same type of argument
that the materialist scientist says are not good arguments- at least when it
comes to the argument for the existence of God.
In a nutshell- if we agree to
accept that a certain particle must exist- not because we have actually
detected it- but because ‘well- it must be there- because if not- then how do
we explain everything else’?
If these arguments are being used
in all of the above scenarios- and trust me- they are.
Then we can’t exclude the Theist
from the table- we can’t say ‘no- you silly Christian- you deal in things we
DON’T SEE- we deal in things we do see.’
Actually- you don’t.
All of the above theories are
conclusions based on how the other things around them respond.
The reason many think Dark Matter
exists- is not because we have found it- we haven’t.
But because in order for the
standard model- well- to stand- then Dark Matter simply ‘must be’.
Okay- this is the same type of
argument the Theist [one who believes in God] uses.
If you want to exclude the
believer from the table- on the grounds that he appeals to a ‘non detectable’
being.
Then we must ditch all of the
above.
And it seems- Higgs Boson too.
NOTE- all scientists are not
materialists- many are believers- and even many non believers are not
materialists. If you are a pure
materialist scientist- one who says we cannot accept any other non material
arguments [things we don’t actually see/detect] then you also would not be able
to accept any of the major theories of physics today- that is if you were
consistent in your thinking.
Also why did the researchers at
CERN release this as some great new finding?
The ‘discovery’ was made at the
new 10 billion dollar Hadron Collider.
This is the world’s largest Atom
smasher.
In order for the Europeans to
justify the cost- they had to convince people that this was the best chance to
actually discover this long elusive particle.
Now- Europe is in a near
depression- as most of you know.
This underground ‘particle
smashing tunnel’ [I think it’s right on the French Swiss border?] when first
opened- had a bad day.
It leaked oil into the tunnel and
it was shut down- and had to be repaired at the cost of millions of dollars.
Okay- all of these guys realize-
if you do not justify the cost of this thing- in the midst of a European
depression- then what are the odds that your gonna keep getting funded?
I don’t know if this was the main
reason they came out with the statement now- but for them to have come out- and
kinda have fudged on it- makes me wonder.
VERSES-
Ezekiel
44:1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which
looketh toward the east; and it was shut.Ezekiel 44:2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
Ezekiel 44:3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.
Ezekiel 44:10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.
Ezekiel 44:11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.
Ezekiel 44:12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.
Ezekiel 44:13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.
Ezekiel 44:14 But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein.
Ezekiel 44:15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:
Ezekiel 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
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