JOHN [conc.]
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I
come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that
that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
https://youtu.be/KUzR8ng9Fjs John conclusion
ON VIDEO-
.Media bias
.NY Times story ‘Trump scared 7 year old boy!’
.Huh?- it was a dream and they reported it- sad
.Peters promise to get martyred for the cause
.Strange way to end a gospel
.Was it Preterism?
NOTE- [new stuff below]
On the video I talked a bit about politics- I said the FBI
situation with the Hillary Clinton emails did indeed show criminality.
Right after I
finished the video- I went to the corner store with my daughter- and the top
news on the TV was the FBI just reopened their investigation into the Hillary
emails.
It actually happened while I was ‘saying it’. [10-28-16]
NEW- [past links- verses below]
As I finish this study
on John- I won’t cover the whole last chapter here- I’ve taught it already.
But I’ll hit on the ending of this chapter- which I always
thought was a bit strange.
The chapter ends with a sort of debate about what Jesus said
[or meant].
Which is indeed a strange way to end such a riveting gospel.
Jesus tells Peter that he will die for the cause -
John
21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest
thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou
shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee
whither thou wouldest not.John 21:19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
And then Peter asks Jesus about John
John
21:20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following;
which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that
betrayeth thee?John 21:21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
Jesus says ‘If I let him live- till ‘my coming’- what’s that
to you’?
John 21:22
Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to
thee? follow thou me.
Then- the disciples started a rumor about John ‘wow- Jesus
said he will never die’.
John 21:23
Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not
die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he
tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
Meaning- if John actually lives until the return of Christ-
then yes- he would have never died.
Yet- the passage says- Jesus never said John would not die-
but that if he ‘lives’ until the coming- what’s the big deal.
Ok- many believers have looked at the 2nd coming verses-
and have rightfully shown that there are various ways these verses can be
taken.
Some argue that in the end time accounts [last days] that
part of the fulfillment of those took place in A.D. 70- when the Romans destroyed
Jerusalem and the temple.
And Jesus did indeed prophecy about this- in his end time teaching.
24 And
Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for
to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And
Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There
shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
This event happened in A.D. 70.
There are other verses in the old testament- that use the
same language about the coming of the Lord- and these too were fulfilled when
God judged those people in the past.
So- it’s possible that Jesus actually told John something to
this effect ‘John- you get to out live all the other guys- until the judgment
[coming] happens in A.D. 70’.
Why do I think this is possible?
Because that’s exactly what did happen.
They did attempt to kill John- like the others.
But John survived- history says he was boiled in oil- and survived
[the only one out of the original group-mind you]
Now- John lives longer than the others- and does see the destruction
of Jerusalem.
An actual ‘coming in judgment’ that the others do not live
to see.
And the others never got the same promise either.
Much has been written about the way to interpret the 2nd coming
passages.
And I do indeed believe in a future- literal return of
Jesus.
But I added this in because the actual history of what happened-
shows us that John miraculously survived his martyrdom attempt- and the words themselves
come from Jesus
John 21:22
Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to
thee?
In the end- all the disciples fulfilled their mission- yes-
even Judas- his betrayal of Jesus was foretold.
Peter will get crucified- upside down- and fulfill the words
of Christ-
John 21:19
This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God.
Jesus will ascend into heaven- and the Spirit will come to
the early church.
They will spread this message of the love of God to the
world of their day.
And amazingly launch the most influential movement known to
man.
The odds of this happening- as some sort of fabricated account
made up by some early followers of Jesus- who later tried to come up with a
fake story of the resurrection- as the critics say-
Would be virtually impossible.
While it is true that other worldwide movements have taken
place-
Yet- they were not based on the actual belief that their
leader rose from the dead.
And it is quite obvious that this event- the resurrection-
was believed among the followers of Jesus.
We as Christians believe in it- and many say ‘because the
bible tells me so’.
Yes- that’s ok.
But for those who do not believe the bible- it still happened.
It happened as an actual historical event- which others- outside
of the bible- also testified of at the time.
To the unbeliever- when you look at the early history- there
is no doubt the disciples believed that their Lord rose from the dead.
And the fact that the church is not simply built upon the
teachings of Jesus- but on the reality of the resurrection- testifies of it
being true.
John puts a lot of emphasis about the testimony of men- and
God.
He speaks about it in all of his writings
And
what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
He
that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God
is true.
But
I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that
ye might be saved.
It
is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is
true
This
is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and
we know that his testimony is true.
1st
John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the
Saviour of the world.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his
Son. 1st Jn. 5:9
At the end of the day- the testimony of God stands sure-
Amen.
PAST LINKS [verses
below]
JOHNS GOSPEL
LINKS-
https://youtu.be/f8VpxlYM_kU John 8- ‘who the Son sets free’
VERSES-
John 21:1 After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the
disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
John 21:2 There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called
Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two
other of his disciples.
John 21:3 Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say
unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship
immediately; and that night they caught nothing.
John 21:4 But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the
shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
John 21:5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat?
They answered him, No.
John 21:6 And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of
the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to
draw it for the multitude of fishes.
John 21:7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto
Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt
his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the
sea.
John 21:8 And the other disciples came in a little ship; (for they
were not far from land, but as it were two hundred cubits,) dragging the net
with fishes.
John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire
of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
John 21:10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have
now caught.
John 21:11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of
great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many,
yet was not the net broken.
John 21:12 Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the
disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
John 21:13 Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them,
and fish likewise.
John 21:14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to
his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter,
Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea,
Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
John 21:16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of
Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love
thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas,
lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time,
Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou
knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young,
thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt
be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and
carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
John 21:19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should
glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
John 21:20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom
Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said,
Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
John 21:21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall
this man do?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I
come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that
that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
John 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things,
and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did,
the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world
itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
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