Unf- BAPTISM OF FIRE
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I actually found a way to talk about the Mafia- and Pizza parlors in this one. As I review these old tapes- I’m surprised how many deal with Ecclesiology [the nature of Church] –
in this one I used a sort of parable from the well that Jacob fed the flocks out of- I also talked about how the women [moms] of the promised kids- were all barren.
Meaning when God made these promises that they would have many kids- he picked men/women- who had a difficult time conceiving. The apostle Paul uses this analogy- quoting Isaiah in the book of Galatians ‘more are the children of the desolate- than of the married wife’.
In Galatians Paul says ‘see? - the children of the Promise are the heirs- not those born from the law’- these are indeed themes I have been hitting on in our videos.
So- I figured being I just reviewed this old message- might as well do a brief commentary- and post it- enjoy.
NOTE- In this post/video- I have 2- because Cameron called while I was taping- so- it stopped.
I’m glad he called- he’s heading off to greener pastures- and we will do a bon-fire going away fellowship at the beach in a few hours- might catch that on tape.
OK- last post/video I talked about John as the forerunner- he was preparing the way for the Messiah.
Now- John was the epitome of the Old Testament type prophet- if I did an entire study on Prophets- and Prophecy- we would see a difference between Old and New Testament prophets [but- New Testament prophet’s can- and often are- just as ‘strong’ as Old Testament ones- I talk about this below].
But- I don’t want to cover that now.
But- I do want you to get a feel of the Prophets-and how they functioned.
These men were called of God to speak the words of God- but also to be for signs and ‘wonders’-
They challenged corrupt kings/rulers- and like the Apostles of the New Testament- they went thru lots of trials- and were often in physical danger- for their lives.
The apostle Paul said ‘I die daily’ and in context he was talking about risking his life on a daily basis.
So- don’t get me wrong- the Prophets were not getting into fights with people [Though we do have a case or 2 were they chopped some heads off!].
But- along with their gift- there was indeed a ‘violent’ aspect- John the Baptist faced physical danger- and did get his head cut off.
Paul the apostle had multiple times where he was almost killed- and there is a passage of scripture where Paul refers to a ‘man he knew- whether in the body- or out’ where some scholars think Paul was talking about himself- after he was stoned and possibly killed- and God brought him back.
Either way- we see that with the proclamation of the Gospel- there was this ‘living on the edge’ lifestyle that went along with it.
In our day- maybe we don’t see this aspect as much- in the U.S. - but in foreign lands- many missionaries/pastors do face death threats on a daily basis.
1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory . I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell ; or whetherout of the body, I cannot tell : God knoweth ;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And Iknew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell : God knoweth ;) 4 Howthat he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for aman to utter . 2nd Cor 12
And why stand we in jeopardy every hour? 31 I protest by yourrejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily . 32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink ;for to morrow we die . 3
In the following verses- taken from the Prophets of the Old Testament- you can get a feel of their callings- God was cleansing them from sin- he was purifying them- so they could be an instrument of justice to those in authority- wicked rulers- etc.- and they would indeed suffer for their callings.
There are many passages- too many to copy- but I have been reading these the past few days- and thought my on-line friends might benefit.
When you [me] speak into a people group- in a way you are ‘pouring’ into the community you speak to.
God showed me years ago that the group you speak into will in a way ‘shape’- limit- or expand the message.
Now- don’t get me wrong- you should never shape your message to fit- or please men.
But what I’m talking about is if you’re speaking to a few people- or believers that are young in the Lord- then for their benefit- you speak at a level that would benefit them.
Yet- to ‘rebuke/correct’ in love- does edify- some feel correction is not part of the New Testament gift- but in actuality- it is.
The simple gift- mentioned in Corinthians- speaks unto men to ‘edification- exhortation and comfort’.
But Prophets- especially in the Old Testament [but not limited to Old Testament prophets- this is a mistake that some who have taught on the gifts have made- understand- that the book of Revelation itself- the ‘prophetic’ book of the New Testament- though penned by an Apostle- did challenge world systems [Babylon is fallen- etc.] and was penned under the New testament gift- given to John and the others- after the ascension of Christ- they wrote these things functioning under the Spirt of God- in the ‘church’ age]- they were speaking both to God’s people- repentance- and pronouncing coming judgment on leaders- nations that forgot God.
1Corinthians 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Corinthians 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Corinthians 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Corinthians 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Corinthians 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1Corinthians 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down , and cast into the fire.
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear : he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee , cut them off , and cast them from thee : it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? [NOTE- This verse is key- it shows you that the ‘baptism of fire’ is not destructive- in the end. But is intended to bring forth holiness. Those who do not ‘submit to the fire’ will continue to live in the lust of the flesh- and in a sense- ‘burn’ in bondage- daily]. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but tosave them. And they went to another village.
I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I , if it be already kindled ?
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered ; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned .
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Zechariah 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Zechariah 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zechariah 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.
Zechariah 3:5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the LORD stood by.
Zechariah 3:6 And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying,
Zechariah 3:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Zechariah 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
Zechariah 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zechariah 3:10 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zechariah 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Zechariah 12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
Zechariah 12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
Zechariah 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
Zechariah 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zechariah 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Daniel 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Daniel 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Revelation 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Revelation 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.